I was listening to a presentation by a vendor about some new product. Yada yada yada buy this, isn't it great yada yada. And the reality is, I'd love to have that product in our library. BUT our budget is so tight we cannot buy anything that has a recurring expense. So my head hurts and I'm a little distracted so I'm not really paying that much attention. I'm pondering the dilemma so many of us face. I have one time money in this years budget that I'll be spending but I can't spend it on recurring expenses...
LIGHTBULB*!
I then asked. Why can't you give us a contract/license for the product for five years and charge us up front at a discount for the entire five years. This would allow us to use one time money for something we want. It pays them for something we would not otherwise purchase. Seems like a win win.
Needless to say the salesperson was a bit taken aback. Two weeks later we hear back that they're willing to do a two year contract and are still discussing five and are not ready yet to give us a quote.
I think this is an idea that is going to really work. It's time for a new model of purchasing. I know that in five years I may or may not be able to continue the product but with the way the information landscape changes I probably won't need it, or will have the money to continue it. Hard to say right now, but I'd have that amazing new resource now and for five years...
Since this initial contact I've asked another vendor for a five year license and quote... I'll let you know if it works out. Keep your fingers crossed.
-- Jenny
*I tried to find the owner of this image or at least an original location. Sadly I have not yet found it or I would be attributing the source. If anyone does know who took this amazing photo, please let me know.
Showing posts with label databases. Show all posts
Showing posts with label databases. Show all posts
Thursday, May 09, 2013
Wednesday, December 05, 2007
A rant, not necessarily coherent: Thompson Gale
Thompson Gale are the tricksiest publisher's of databases I know. It's one thing to market a subset of a database as a separate database. It's another to sell two databases with different names and the exact same contents.
I couldn't believe it when I pulled up the title lists for Business & Company ASAP and General Business ASAP and the title lists were EXACTLY THE FREAKING SAME.
I emailed the company rep earlier this week asking what the differences were. I haven't heard back yet. I wonder what they're going to tell me. Maybe there's something different, but when I searched one and then the other they returned EXACTLY THE SAME FREAKING RESULTS. ARRRGH. SOoo frustrating.
The other piece about marketing a subset? Well when the state rebid the contract there was a big list of databases that were very subject specific which looked nifty. We looked at them and they were great. Come to find out each one is just a subset of full-text journals that are indexed in the larger Academic OneFile. My guess is that they were and are in the Expanded Academic database (Also searched by OneFile). When you search OneFile, you are searching most of the Gale databases that the state purchased. That's cool as long as the databases have different contents. OneFile searches both of those business databases that are EXACTLY THE FREAKING SAME.
Here's a list of those subset full-text databases
InfoTrac Agriculture Collection
InfoTrac Business Economics and Theory
InfoTrac Communication & Mass Media
InfoTrac Criminal Justice
InfoTrac Diversity Studies
InfoTrac Educators
InfoTrac Environmental Issues & Policy
InfoTrac Garden, Landscape & Horticulture
InfoTrac General Science
InfoTrac GLBT Life and Issues
InfoTrac Information Science & Library Issues
InfoTrac Insurance & Liability Collection
InfoTrac Nursing and Allied Health Collection
Infotrac Physical Therapy and Sports Medicine Collection
InfoTrac Pop Culture Collection
InfoTrac Psychology Collection
InfoTrac Religion & Philosophy
InfoTrac Tourism, Hospitality & Leisure
InfoTrac US History
InfoTrac Vocation, Careers & Technical Education
InfoTrac War & Terrorism
InfoTrac World History
It is nifty to be able to search a subset of full text journals on a specific topic. I actually LIKE this feature. BUT, when I was evaluating the package as proposed by Gale to the state, I did not know that they were subsets of a larger database. It is the marketing tactic of making us think there was more content, more databases, more access that I despise. Misleading, complicated rant, rant, rant, rant.
I should say that it was clear that they were all searched using Academic Onefile. But that is true of many other diverse databases such as Informe a Spanish language collection and LegalTrac a premier legal research database. What was not clear was the fact that they (the little fulltext dbases) were subsets of stuff already indexed.
Academic Onefile is a supersearch engine that will eventually (hopefully) search any and all Thompson Gale products purchased. Although, now that I look at the website, it does say that
"Academic OneFile is the premier source for peer-reviewed, full-text articles from the world's leading journals and reference sources. With extensive coverage of the physical sciences, technology, medicine, social sciences, the arts, theology, literature and other subjects, Academic OneFile is both authoritative and comprehensive. With millions of articles available in both PDF and HTML full-text with no restrictions, researchers are able to find accurate information quickly. Includes full-text coverage of the New York Times back to 1995. Updated daily."
Does this mean it has it's own content or is it just describing the affiliated content found in Expanded Academic and other databases.
See what I mean about misleading marketing. I can't trust them that there is original content. Not after looking at the title lists for both Business and Company ASAP and General Business File ASAP.
I sure hope the state dumps this group and goes with someone else next time around.
Jenny
I couldn't believe it when I pulled up the title lists for Business & Company ASAP and General Business ASAP and the title lists were EXACTLY THE FREAKING SAME.
I emailed the company rep earlier this week asking what the differences were. I haven't heard back yet. I wonder what they're going to tell me. Maybe there's something different, but when I searched one and then the other they returned EXACTLY THE SAME FREAKING RESULTS. ARRRGH. SOoo frustrating.
The other piece about marketing a subset? Well when the state rebid the contract there was a big list of databases that were very subject specific which looked nifty. We looked at them and they were great. Come to find out each one is just a subset of full-text journals that are indexed in the larger Academic OneFile. My guess is that they were and are in the Expanded Academic database (Also searched by OneFile). When you search OneFile, you are searching most of the Gale databases that the state purchased. That's cool as long as the databases have different contents. OneFile searches both of those business databases that are EXACTLY THE FREAKING SAME.
Here's a list of those subset full-text databases
InfoTrac Agriculture Collection
InfoTrac Business Economics and Theory
InfoTrac Communication & Mass Media
InfoTrac Criminal Justice
InfoTrac Diversity Studies
InfoTrac Educators
InfoTrac Environmental Issues & Policy
InfoTrac Garden, Landscape & Horticulture
InfoTrac General Science
InfoTrac GLBT Life and Issues
InfoTrac Information Science & Library Issues
InfoTrac Insurance & Liability Collection
InfoTrac Nursing and Allied Health Collection
Infotrac Physical Therapy and Sports Medicine Collection
InfoTrac Pop Culture Collection
InfoTrac Psychology Collection
InfoTrac Religion & Philosophy
InfoTrac Tourism, Hospitality & Leisure
InfoTrac US History
InfoTrac Vocation, Careers & Technical Education
InfoTrac War & Terrorism
InfoTrac World History
It is nifty to be able to search a subset of full text journals on a specific topic. I actually LIKE this feature. BUT, when I was evaluating the package as proposed by Gale to the state, I did not know that they were subsets of a larger database. It is the marketing tactic of making us think there was more content, more databases, more access that I despise. Misleading, complicated rant, rant, rant, rant.
I should say that it was clear that they were all searched using Academic Onefile. But that is true of many other diverse databases such as Informe a Spanish language collection and LegalTrac a premier legal research database. What was not clear was the fact that they (the little fulltext dbases) were subsets of stuff already indexed.
Academic Onefile is a supersearch engine that will eventually (hopefully) search any and all Thompson Gale products purchased. Although, now that I look at the website, it does say that
"Academic OneFile is the premier source for peer-reviewed, full-text articles from the world's leading journals and reference sources. With extensive coverage of the physical sciences, technology, medicine, social sciences, the arts, theology, literature and other subjects, Academic OneFile is both authoritative and comprehensive. With millions of articles available in both PDF and HTML full-text with no restrictions, researchers are able to find accurate information quickly. Includes full-text coverage of the New York Times back to 1995. Updated daily."
Does this mean it has it's own content or is it just describing the affiliated content found in Expanded Academic and other databases.
See what I mean about misleading marketing. I can't trust them that there is original content. Not after looking at the title lists for both Business and Company ASAP and General Business File ASAP.
I sure hope the state dumps this group and goes with someone else next time around.
Jenny
Tuesday, March 13, 2007
LiLI Training: Gale: Part 2
Gale Virtual Reference Library
(Ebooks)
We own the content and is maintained by Idaho Commission of Libraries, if contract ends, we'd continue to own the content.
Title list of books that the state has purchased or what we have purchased (based on authentication)
The State List Includes:
Beacham's Guide to the Endangered Species of North America , 6v, 2000
Biology , 4v, 2002
Encyclopedia of Small Business , 2nd Ed., 2v, 2002
Gale Encyclopedia of Alternative Medicine , 2nd Ed., 4v, 2005
Gale Encyclopedia of Cancer , 2nd Ed., 2v, 2006
Gale Encyclopedia of Genetic Disorders , 2nd Ed., 2v, 2005
Gale Encyclopedia of Medicine , 3rd Ed., 5v, 2006
Gale Encyclopedia of Multicultural America , 2nd Ed., 3v, 2000
Gale Encyclopedia of U.S. Economic History , 2v, 1999
St. James Encyclopedia of Popular Culture , 5v, 2000
World of Earth Science , 2v, 2003
Browse the books by clicking on the "Show All" link at the bottom left of the search
screen.
Click on the title of the book to browse the book.
The Idaho Commission for Libraries may be purchasing a few more books for this
collection.
Marc records can be added to your catalog.
Health & Wellness Resource Center, includes books, journals, pamphlets (not archived, but
replaced as newer is released) ... Has Alternative Health Encyclopedia. Created for consumer use.
Business and Company Resource Center
Search by Company using name or ticker symbol
Search by Industry using word, NAICS or SIC code
Search articles by keyword
In a company search result:
There are links to articles on the left bar after a search is executed
There are tabs above with links to history, short financials, industry and more
In an industry search results in datamonitor reports
The company search from the tiny greenish bar allows narrowing of the search to industry code, product, and/or location
lots more to look at...
(Ebooks)
We own the content and is maintained by Idaho Commission of Libraries, if contract ends, we'd continue to own the content.
Title list of books that the state has purchased or what we have purchased (based on authentication)
The State List Includes:
Beacham's Guide to the Endangered Species of North America , 6v, 2000
Biology , 4v, 2002
Encyclopedia of Small Business , 2nd Ed., 2v, 2002
Gale Encyclopedia of Alternative Medicine , 2nd Ed., 4v, 2005
Gale Encyclopedia of Cancer , 2nd Ed., 2v, 2006
Gale Encyclopedia of Genetic Disorders , 2nd Ed., 2v, 2005
Gale Encyclopedia of Medicine , 3rd Ed., 5v, 2006
Gale Encyclopedia of Multicultural America , 2nd Ed., 3v, 2000
Gale Encyclopedia of U.S. Economic History , 2v, 1999
St. James Encyclopedia of Popular Culture , 5v, 2000
World of Earth Science , 2v, 2003
Browse the books by clicking on the "Show All" link at the bottom left of the search
screen.
Click on the title of the book to browse the book.
The Idaho Commission for Libraries may be purchasing a few more books for this
collection.
Marc records can be added to your catalog.
Health & Wellness Resource Center, includes books, journals, pamphlets (not archived, but
replaced as newer is released) ... Has Alternative Health Encyclopedia. Created for consumer use.
Business and Company Resource Center
Search by Company using name or ticker symbol
Search by Industry using word, NAICS or SIC code
Search articles by keyword
In a company search result:
There are links to articles on the left bar after a search is executed
There are tabs above with links to history, short financials, industry and more
In an industry search results in datamonitor reports
The company search from the tiny greenish bar allows narrowing of the search to industry code, product, and/or location
lots more to look at...
LiLI Training: Gale: Part 1
Interesting...
http://www.gale.com (database title lists available, training info, usermanuals)
The path for help
-> technical & training
-> browse by product tab
-> technical & training resources
-> product name
---->
Fun thing: Searching for California Crops in Yahoo. Check out the link about
California's Velcro Crop
Why is the link to the gale databases from the alpha list going into power search, instead
of the list of databases?
Gale Power Search option
Right now this is the default from our "Gale Databases" on the Alphabetical list. Use
the "Change Databases" link on the upper right to get to the list.
It should be noted that Academic Onefile and/or Infotrac Onefile include these
"powerpack" databases in toto:
InfoTrac Environmental Issues & Policy
InfoTrac Criminal Justice
InfoTrac General Science
InfoTrac GLBT Life & Issues
InfoTrac Information Science & Library Issues
InfoTrac Insurance & Liability Collection
InfoTrac Tourism, Hospitality & Leisure
InfoTrac Careers & Technical Edition
InfoTrac Communication & Mass Media
InfoTrac US History
InfoTrac World History
InfoTrac Educators
InfoTrac War & Terrorism
InfoTrac Diversity Studies
InfoTrac Pop Culture Collection
InfoTrac Psychology Collection
InfoTrac Religion & Philosophy
InfoTrac Garden, Landscape & Horticulture
Military & Intelligence Databases
InfoTrac Business Economics and Theory
InfoTrac Agriculture Colection
InfoTrac Physical Therapy & Sports Medicine Collection
InfoTrac Nursing and Allied Health Collection
Use the subject search option to narrow by subject and sub subject
From a list of results you can click on the mid blue bar and link Expand/Limit which will
open a list of options that you can limit or expand the current search.
Bookmarking a marked list of citations (or storing the url in some other way) will
retrieve the exact result list in useable form.
Bookmarking from the search screen (not from a marked list) will retrieve and self update
the search. (Do not set a date range or an end date. The begin date can be set.)
Use InfoMark to email the stable URL
http://www.gale.com (database title lists available, training info, usermanuals)
The path for help
-> technical & training
-> browse by product tab
-> technical & training resources
-> product name
---->
Fun thing: Searching for California Crops in Yahoo. Check out the link about
California's Velcro Crop
Why is the link to the gale databases from the alpha list going into power search, instead
of the list of databases?
Gale Power Search option
Right now this is the default from our "Gale Databases" on the Alphabetical list. Use
the "Change Databases" link on the upper right to get to the list.
It should be noted that Academic Onefile and/or Infotrac Onefile include these
"powerpack" databases in toto:
InfoTrac Environmental Issues & Policy
InfoTrac Criminal Justice
InfoTrac General Science
InfoTrac GLBT Life & Issues
InfoTrac Information Science & Library Issues
InfoTrac Insurance & Liability Collection
InfoTrac Tourism, Hospitality & Leisure
InfoTrac Careers & Technical Edition
InfoTrac Communication & Mass Media
InfoTrac US History
InfoTrac World History
InfoTrac Educators
InfoTrac War & Terrorism
InfoTrac Diversity Studies
InfoTrac Pop Culture Collection
InfoTrac Psychology Collection
InfoTrac Religion & Philosophy
InfoTrac Garden, Landscape & Horticulture
Military & Intelligence Databases
InfoTrac Business Economics and Theory
InfoTrac Agriculture Colection
InfoTrac Physical Therapy & Sports Medicine Collection
InfoTrac Nursing and Allied Health Collection
Use the subject search option to narrow by subject and sub subject
From a list of results you can click on the mid blue bar and link Expand/Limit which will
open a list of options that you can limit or expand the current search.
Bookmarking a marked list of citations (or storing the url in some other way) will
retrieve the exact result list in useable form.
Bookmarking from the search screen (not from a marked list) will retrieve and self update
the search. (Do not set a date range or an end date. The begin date can be set.)
Use InfoMark to email the stable URL
LiLI Training: Proquest
1. eLibrary Curriculum Edition
Everything is full-text
1500+ full-text magazine titles
170+ full-text newspapers
(includes French and Spanish language titles)
170 transcript sources (e.g. 60 minutes or Good Morning America)
Requires Apple Quicktime plugin
Additional features:
multiple result list sorting
email articles
spell checker
create temporary bibliography with "my list" (does not have a portal function)
bookcart
Can change the default through the admin interface to boolean instead of the natural language search
Each icon of type (news, books, pictures, etc.) is clickable and results in a list of sources
Use the topic search to browse content, including websites. This is the only way to access the editor reviewed and selected websites. This is also a tab near the top.
Another tab is Reference and provides thesaurus, encyclopedia, dictionary and other reference resources.
Bookcarts can be created to provide permanent access to selected resources on a topic. Must be done through admin
The database is a mini-library of full text resources for all subject areas for everyone from kindergarten to university students. There are academic and peer reviewed journals in the database, along with overviews of subject areas. This is a good "encyclopedia" type resource. Where we used to go the home encyclopedia for answer now we can begin with eLibrary Curriculum Edition.
2. eLibrary Elementary Edition
Similar search interface is that the source list is pared down to a subset of the eLibrary Curriculumn Edition
75 magazines
(Can we create direct links to 3. & 4. right now they are only linked from the eLibrary Curriculum Edition)
When searching from eLibrary watch the results tabs. Results can come from #3 & #4 and are displayed only via the tabs "Literature" and "History".
3. ProQuest Learning: Literature
180,000 Searchable works
Author pages
- biography
- criticism
- bibliography
- reference resources
persistent links
Needs either RealMedia Player or Windows Media Player to view or listen to multimedia files
Knowledge Notes Study Guides
100+ plot overviews and notes
4. HISTORY STUDY CENTER
500+ Study Units
65 history guides
371 historical journals
dynamic maps e.g. show battles
Study units include editor selected websites.
Online training is available check out: http://www.proquestk12.com/
Everything is full-text
1500+ full-text magazine titles
170+ full-text newspapers
(includes French and Spanish language titles)
170 transcript sources (e.g. 60 minutes or Good Morning America)
Requires Apple Quicktime plugin
Additional features:
multiple result list sorting
email articles
spell checker
create temporary bibliography with "my list" (does not have a portal function)
bookcart
Can change the default through the admin interface to boolean instead of the natural language search
Each icon of type (news, books, pictures, etc.) is clickable and results in a list of sources
Use the topic search to browse content, including websites. This is the only way to access the editor reviewed and selected websites. This is also a tab near the top.
Another tab is Reference and provides thesaurus, encyclopedia, dictionary and other reference resources.
Bookcarts can be created to provide permanent access to selected resources on a topic. Must be done through admin
The database is a mini-library of full text resources for all subject areas for everyone from kindergarten to university students. There are academic and peer reviewed journals in the database, along with overviews of subject areas. This is a good "encyclopedia" type resource. Where we used to go the home encyclopedia for answer now we can begin with eLibrary Curriculum Edition.
2. eLibrary Elementary Edition
Similar search interface is that the source list is pared down to a subset of the eLibrary Curriculumn Edition
75 magazines
(Can we create direct links to 3. & 4. right now they are only linked from the eLibrary Curriculum Edition)
When searching from eLibrary watch the results tabs. Results can come from #3 & #4 and are displayed only via the tabs "Literature" and "History".
3. ProQuest Learning: Literature
180,000 Searchable works
Author pages
- biography
- criticism
- bibliography
- reference resources
persistent links
Needs either RealMedia Player or Windows Media Player to view or listen to multimedia files
Knowledge Notes Study Guides
100+ plot overviews and notes
4. HISTORY STUDY CENTER
500+ Study Units
65 history guides
371 historical journals
dynamic maps e.g. show battles
Study units include editor selected websites.
Online training is available check out: http://www.proquestk12.com/
LiLI Training: Ebsco
Very interesting presentation on three databases 1. Auto Repair Reference Center, 2. Book Collectoin: Nonfiction, and 3. Book Index with Reviews.
1. Auto Repair
Oldest coverage is for the Kaiser Jeep or Volkswagon Bug (1945-1967)
In 1967 domestic car coverage begins using Chiltons info
In 2004 and moving into the present car information is coming from Delphi
In 2004 added wiring diagrams from Valley Forge
Weakness: keyword searching
2. Book Collection: Nonfiction
Treating books like journals (chapter indexing)...
Marc records are available (*856* field) for these items
Image collection items are from the Getty Image Collection
3. Book Index with Reviews
While music and videos are included in their own sections, they do not include reviews, but only include publication info.
Popularity ranking is from Baker and Taylor sales to whomever--mostly libraries)
I need to look at #3 more closely. We ran out of time.
1. Auto Repair
Oldest coverage is for the Kaiser Jeep or Volkswagon Bug (1945-1967)
In 1967 domestic car coverage begins using Chiltons info
In 2004 and moving into the present car information is coming from Delphi
In 2004 added wiring diagrams from Valley Forge
Weakness: keyword searching
2. Book Collection: Nonfiction
Treating books like journals (chapter indexing)...
Marc records are available (*856* field) for these items
Image collection items are from the Getty Image Collection
3. Book Index with Reviews
While music and videos are included in their own sections, they do not include reviews, but only include publication info.
Popularity ranking is from Baker and Taylor sales to whomever--mostly libraries)
I need to look at #3 more closely. We ran out of time.
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